13-000026
Michael Reed vs.
At And T Mobility, Llc
Status: Closed
Recommended Order on Thursday, May 15, 2014.
Recommended Order on Thursday, May 15, 2014.
1STATE OF FLORIDA
4DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS
8MICHAEL REED,
10Petitioner,
11vs. Case No. 13 - 0026
17AT & T MOBILITY, LLC,
22Respondent.
23_______________________________/
24RECOMMENDED ORDER
26A formal hearing was conducted in this case on
35September 10, 2013 , in Daytona Beach , Florida, before
43Lawrence P. Stevenson, a duly - designated Administrative Law
52Judge with the Division of Administrative Hearings.
59APPEARANCES
60For Petitioner: David W. Glasser, Esquire
66Law Off ice of David W. Glasser
73116 Orange Avenue
76Daytona Beach , Florida 3 2 114
82For Respondent: Leticia D. Alfonso , Esquire
88AT&T Legal Department
91675 West Peachtree Street
95Atlanta, Georgia 30308
98STATEMENT OF THE ISSUE
102The issue is whether Respondent , AT&T Mobility Services,
110LLC (ÐAT&T Ñ) 1 / committed unlawful employment practice s contrary
121to s ection 760.10, Florida Statutes (20 12 ) , 2 / by discriminating
134against Petitioner b ased on h is age by failing to hire him as a
149customer service representative in its Ocala Call Center .
158PRELIMINARY ST ATEMENT
161On or about June 28 , 2012 , Petitioner Michael Reed
170( Ð Petitioner Ñ ) filed with the Florida Commission on Human
182Relations ( Ð FCHR Ñ ) a Charge of Discrimination against AT&T .
195Petitioner alleged that he had been discriminated against
203pursuant to c hapter 760, Florida Statutes , and the Age
213Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, as amended, codified
222at 29 U.S.C. § 621 through 29 U.S.C. § 634, as follows:
234I am 60 years old. I applied for the
243position of Customer Service Representative
248with AT&T on or abou t April 23, 2012. After
258submitting my resume I attended an online
265teleconference with details about the job; I
272was then asked to take a test at the Ocala
282facility. I took and passed the test; I was
291then asked to go to an interview and believe
300that I did well. On or about May 4, 2012, I
311received an email advising me that I had not
320been selected for the position.
325The May 4 th email received from AT&T
333Staffing indicated that my interview did not
340qualify me for this position.
345I believe that I have been disc riminated
353against on the basis of my age/60 [sic], in
362violation of the Age Discrimination in
368Employment Act of 1967, as amended.
374The FCHR investigated Petitioner's Complaint. In a letter
382dated December 5 , 2012 , the FCHR issued its determination that
392ther e was no reasonable cause to believe that an unlawful
403employment practice occurred .
407On December 31 , 2012 , Petitioner timely filed a Petition
416for Relief with the FCHR . On January 7, 2013 , the FCHR referred
429the case to the Division of Administrative Hearing s ( Ð DOAH Ñ ) .
444The case was originally scheduled for hearing on March 18, 2013 .
456Disputes regarding the scope and content of discovery sought by
466Petitioner necessitated two continuances. 3 / One continuance w as
476granted. The hearing was ultimately held on Sep tember 10, 2013 .
488At the outset of the hea ring, the parties stipulated to the
500admission of Joint Exhibits B, C, D, E, L, M, R, X, Y, Z, AA,
515and BB. Petitioner testified on his own behalf and offered the
526testimony of Sheri Kerstetter, the AT&T sales and ser vice center
537manager for the Ocala call center who interviewed Petitioner and
547made the decision not to hire him. Petitioner ' s Exhibits A, F,
560G, H, I, J, K, W, and CC were admitted into evidence.
572Respondent presented the testimony of Eunice Robinson, the A T&T
582area manager who supervises Ms. Kerstetter; Tina Garcia, a
591staffing manager for AT&T; and Ms. Kerstetter. Respondent
599offered no exhibits beyond the joint exhibits admitted at the
609start of the hearing.
613The two - volume T ranscript of the hearing was filed at the
626Division of Administrative Hearings on October 7, 2013. By
635order dated October 15, 2013, the undersigned granted the
644partiesÓ Joint Motion for Extension of Time to File Post - Hearing
656Recommended Orders, giving the parties until October 31, 2013 ,
665to file proposed recommended orders. Both parties filed their
674P roposed R ecommended O rders on October 31, 2013.
684FINDINGS OF FACT
6871. AT&T is an employer as that term is defined in
698s ubs ection 760. 02(7) , Florida Statutes , and 29 U.S.C. § 630(b) .
7112. Petitio ner is a white male who was 60 years old at the
725time he applied and was rejected for a job at AT&T.
7363. In April 2012, Petitioner applied for a Customer
745Service Representative ( Ð CSRÑ) position with AT&T at its Ocala
756call center. The CSR position is covere d by a collective
767bargaining agreement between AT&T and Communication Workers of
775America.
7764. CSRs handle incoming customer calls for the variety of
786products and services sold, provided , or serviced by AT&T . The
797CSRÓs essential duty is to resolve customer complaints and then
807transition the call into an attempt to sell the customer
817additional products and services.
8215. Petitioner submitted an application and resume. AT&TÓs
829Ðresume builderÑ tool took PetitionerÓs submissions and
836generated a document that se t forth PetitionerÓs education,
845certifications, work experience, and job preferences.
8516. Petitioner noted that he had many years of experience
861with Pacific Bell between the early 1970s through 1989,
870including six years as a customer service representati ve.
879Petitioner has also owned his own small business telephone
888system interconnect company for 25 years. Petitioner
895believed that this experience made him an ideal candidate for
905the AT&T CSR position.
9097. Petitioner took and passed an initial prescreen in g test
920for the CSR position . As a result, AT&T sent him an automated
933email scheduling him to attend a group teleconference
941presentation given by Tina Garcia, a staffing manager based in
951California who was responsible for the Ocala call center.
9608. Petitio ner attended the teleconference . Thirteen other
969applicants were on the call. Ms. Garcia offered details about
979the CSR position, including salary, training, hours, and the
988status of the union. Ms. Garcia also explained the remainder of
999the application pr ocess, including how to prepare for the
1009interview.
10109. Petitioner testified that the applicants were not
1018really allowed to participate in the teleconference. He found
1027it unusual that Ms. Garcia stated that AT&T was only interested
1038in applicantsÓ job exper ience from the last five years. She
1049also stated that if an applicant were self - employed, AT&T would
1061consider his employment history only to the extent it could be
1072substantiated with federal tax documents.
107710. Ms. Garcia testified that AT&T looks at only the last
1088five years of employment for purposes of setting pay according
1098to the union scale, but that AT&T is willing to consider all of
1111an applicantÓs work experience during the interview process.
1119The tendency is to focus on more recent experience during the
1130interview, and it is therefore up to the applicant to make sure
1142the interviewer is aware of all his relevant experience.
115111 . Applicants still interested in the CSR position after
1161th e teleconference were scheduled to take an assessment at the
1172Ocala c al l c enter. Petitioner took the c all c enter assessment ,
1186which is a live test administered via computer at the Ocala call
1198center. Petitioner testified that the assessment covered
1205general aptitude, general knowledge, and situational customer
1212contact.
121312 . P etitioner passed the assessment. Ms. Garcia then
1223reviewed PetitionerÓs application and determined that he met the
1232minimum qualifications for the CSR position. She contacted
1240Petitioner to schedule him for a job interview at the Ocala call
1252center.
125313. Ms. Garcia sent Petitioner a form email that she sends
1264all applicants who are scheduled for interview. The email is
1274designed to assist applicants in preparation for their
1282interviews. Among the bullet points set out in the email were
1293the following:
1295* Go o n - line and Google Ð Behavioral
1305Interview Questions . Ñ By reviewing and
1312practicing your responses this [sic] will
1318help refresh details regarding situations
1323Ð you Ñ have handled. The Interviewing
1330Manager only wants to hear responses
1336regarding actual situations that you have
1342handled already.
1344* Tell a full story do not hesitate [sic]
1353to share all details on how you handled the
1362specific situation.
1364* Your application is only a guide ; your
1372responses will determine the outcome.
1377* Remember this is a Customer Ser vice and
1386Sales position (be prepared to Sale) [sic]
139314. Petitioner testified that he went online and looked up
1403behavioral interview questions and practiced his responses to
1411them before going to the interview. He stated that the
1421materials consisted of qu estions about Ðsituational customer
1429thingsÑ such as how to sell a product and how to handle customer
1442complaints.
144315. On May 2, 2012, Petitioner went to the Ocala call
1454center and was interviewed by H iring M anager Sheri Kerstetter.
1465Ms. Kerstetter used an A T&T - produced CSR ÐInterview GuideÑ to
1477conduct the interview. The guide set forth two segments to the
1488interview: a ÐKey Background ReviewÑ during which the applicant
1497discusses his work experience; and ÐPlanned Behavioral
1504Questions,Ñ in which the applicant is presented with the
1514opportunity, in response to specific questions, to describe his
1523methods and experience in handling situations involving five
1531categories: Customer Service, Sales Ability/Potential,
1536Technical Savvy/Troubleshooting, Computer Knowledge, and
1541Adaptability/Flexibility . 4 /
154516. The guide provides the interviewer with three
1553questions in each category, though the interviewer may opt to
1563ask only two. 5 / The interviewer scores the applicantÓs responses
1574in each category on a scale of 1 to 5, with any score below 3
1589being deemed unacceptable. Based on the entire interview, the
1598interviewer also gives the applicant a score in a category
1608labeled ÐCommunicationÑ on the same 1 to 5 scale. Finally, the
1619interviewer gives the applicant an overall grade of Ð Acceptable Ñ
1630or ÐNot Acceptable.Ñ
163317. AT&T requires the applicant to answer the Planned
1642Behavioral Questions in a ÐSTARÑ format; that is, the
1651applicantÓs response should disclose a ÐSituation/TaskÑ that was
1659presented to the applicant, describe the ÐAction Ñ the applicant
1669took, and state the ÐResponseÑ or outcome of the action taken to
1681resolve the situation.
168418. At the beginning of the interview, Ms. Kerstetter
1693explained that she would ask him a series of questions that he
1705was to answer from his personal experience. She also explained
1715the STAR format to him .
172119. Ms. Kerstetter testified that she had no present
1730recollection of Petitioner or of the May 2, 2012 , interview.
1740However, Ms. KerstetterÓs notes of the interview were admitted
1749into evidence as a jo int exhibit and adopted by Ms. Kerstetter
1761at the hearing. Petitioner conceded that the notes were
1770accurate but stated that they did not capture the detail of
1781everything he stated during the interview.
178720. Petitioner testified that Ms. KerstetterÓs initia l
1795questions were about his job experience. They spoke for five to
1806ten minutes about PetitionerÓs phone company work. Petitioner
1814told Ms. Kerstetter about his 17 years at Pacific Bell,
1824including time as a supervisor in operator services and six
1834years in c ustomer service. He also told her that he owned a
1847business phone system interconnect company that was still a
1856going concern after 25 years.
186121. Petitioner testified that he found it Ðsort of
1870peculiarÑ that Ms. Kerstetter did not ask him for more detail s
1882about his phone company work or make any written notes about it.
1894In fact, under ÐWork Background,Ñ Ms. Kerstetter parenthetically
1903noted Ðsmall business phone systems 25 years.Ñ
191022. Petitioner faulted Ms. Kerstetter for not asking him
1919detailed follow - up questions about his phone company experience,
1929but he conceded that he talked about his experience only in
1940general terms and provided no details as to any special projects
1951he worked on. When Ms. Kerstetter asked him to describe any
1962other experience he h ad, Petitioner told her about his handyman
1973business and his work as a cable installer. Petitioner gave the
1984overall impression of having been very passive during the
1993interview, waiting for Ms. Kerstetter to draw out the
2002information rather than taking the i nitiative to make sure she
2013knew everything about him that he believed was relevant to the
2024job for which he was applying.
203023. Ms. Kerstetter noted that Petitioner did not comply
2039with the STAR format in response to question 3 in the category of
2052Sales Abilit y/Potential. (The question is set forth at endnote
20625, supra .) In fact, she noted that he did not answer the
2075question at all . Ms. Kerstetter also noted that Petitioner
2085provided no STAR in response to question 3 of the Computer
2096Knowledge category , which a sked the applicant to describe the
2106most complex activity he is able to complete with a computer,
2117how often he performs that activity, and the computer programs
2127he uses in the activity.
213224. In the categories of Customer Service, Sales
2140Ability/Potential, Te chnical Savvy/Troubleshooting, and Computer
2146Knowledge , Ms. Kerstetter scored Petitioner a 2, which
2154indicates a result that is Ð Less than Acceptable. Ñ
2164Ms. Kerstetter rated Petitioner a Ð 3 Ñ , or Ð Acceptable , Ñ in the
2178categories of Adaptability/Flexibility and Communication.
218325. Ms. Kerstetter rated PetitionerÓs overall score as
2191ÐNot Acceptable.Ñ Ms. Kerstetter testified that the scoring on
2200the interview is subjective. She stated that AT&T does not have
2211a policy of disqualifying an applicant who makes a cert ain
2222number of less than acceptable scores. Her rule of thumb is
2233that she might hire someone who made one Ð 2 Ñ because she could
2247focus on that area of weakness and improve the applicantÓs skill
2258in that area during training. If there are two or more less
2270th an acceptable scores, she is not likely to hire the applicant.
228226. Ms. Kerstetter testified that PetitionerÓs rating was
2290based entirely on his responses to the questions in the
2300interview. Applicants are not required to provide their age. 6 /
2311Ms. Kerstette r testified that her training instructed her not to
2322ask applicants age - related questions. She stated that she did
2333not know PetitionerÓs age and did not base her decision on his
2345age.
234627. However, it is noted that Petitioner plainly appears
2355to be well past fifty years of age. Therefore, Ms. KerstetterÓs
2366unawareness of PetitionerÓs exact age does not alone operate as
2376a complete defense to the allegation that she discriminated
2385against him because of his age. 7 /
239328. Petitioner objected that Ms. Kerstetter di d not have a
2404copy of his resume or the resume builder document in front of
2416her during the interview. Ms. Kerstetter testified that
2424sometimes she does and sometimes she does n o t have a resume
2437during these interviews, depending on whether an AT&T clerk has
2447placed the resume in the file.
245329. Ms. Garcia testified that applicants for the CSR
2462position are not required to submit resumes and interviewers are
2472not required to bring applicantsÓ resumes to the interviews.
248130. Eunice Robinson, the AT&T area manager w ho is
2491Ms. KerstetterÓs supervisor, testified that she has done
2499interviews with and without resumes. She added that she did not
2510think the resume makes a difference regarding whether the
2519applicant is hired, because Ðthe interview process, at the point
2529when youÓre in front of the interviewer, itÓs all about
2539communication, itÓs all about how you sell yourself to say that
2550you are the right person for the job.Ñ
255831. Ms. Kerstetter interviewed other applicants for the
2566CSR position around the time of Petitioner's application. Four
2575of those she interviewed were ultimately hired as CSRs.
2584Ms. Kerstetter gave higher scores to each of these four, Jason
2595Rodriguez, Terri Gill, Angela Queen , and William DeRousse , than
2604she gave to Petitioner based on their answers to the questions
2615asked. Ms. Kerstetter gave credible explanations for her
2623ratings that were unrelated to the age of the applicant s, none of
2636whose ages she knew at the time of the interviews .
264732. Mr. Rodriguez received scores of 3 in all areas except
2658Technical S avvy/Troubleshooting and Computer Knowledge, for
2665which he was rated a 4, indicating ÐMore Than Acceptable.Ñ
2675Ms. Kerstetter testified that she gave Mr. Rodrigu ez a high
2686score on Computer Knowledge because he was Ðvery savvy on the
2697internetÑ and had advance d computer skills such as the ability
2708to set up gaming servers. 8 / In contrast, the computer skills
2720noted by Petitioner, such as the ability to work with Microsoft
2731Office, were things learned Ðin middle school nowadays.Ñ
2739Ms. Kerstetter did not hold Mr. Ro driguezÓ relative lack of work
2751experience against him because he had been a college student and
2762was only now ready to work a full - time job.
277333. As to PetitionerÓs contention that his experience with
2782Pacific Bell, an AT&T related entity, made him more qual ified
2793than Mr. Rodriguez, Ms. Robinson testified that prior experience
2802working for AT&T would not be a deciding factor in hiring.
281334. Ms. Kerstetter noted that she was looking for sales
2823experience, not necessarily experience in the telephone
2830industry. She also noted that PetitionerÓs experience was
2838somewhat stale, having predated wireless communications, and
2845that Petitioner did not give her sufficient detail describing
2854his experience: ÐJust saying you have customer service
2862experience doesnÓt really mea n Ï - you could be good or bad.Ñ
2875The behavioral interview, not experience, is the key to being
2885hired for the CSR position.
289035 . Ms. Gill received scores of 4 in the categories of
2902Customer Service and Adaptability/Flexibility, and scores of 3
2910in all o ther categories. Ms. Kerstetter noted that Ms. Gill
2921demonstrated she Ðcan take sales pressure to deliver quotas.
2930Enjoys Customer Service. Incentives motivate.Ñ Ms. Kerstetter
2937recalled that Ms. Gill stated during the interview, ÐMoney
2946motivates me.Ñ Ms . Kerstetter testified that such motivation
2955was important because Ðwe have incentives and commission - based
2965drivers to drive key behaviors that we want the representatives
2975to demonstrate.Ñ
297736 . Ms. Queen was rated a 3 in all categories.
2988Ms. KerstetterÓs no tes indicated that Ms. Queen had done
2998seasonal work in call centers, that her interview responses
3007appeared to comply with the STAR format, and that she was able
3019to rebuild a computer.
302337 . Mr. DeRousse received scores of 5, indicating ÐMuch
3033more than accep table,Ñ in the categories of Sales
3043Ability/Persuasiveness and Technical Savvy/Troubleshooting , and
3048scores a 4 in all other categories. Ms. Kerstetter noted that
3059Mr. DeRousse was ÐassertiveÑ and Ðwill be a good salesperson
3069able to overcome objections and already knows how to sell
3079benefits.Ñ
308038 . Ms. Kerstetter credibly denied that her decision to
3090hire any of these successful applicants had anything to do with
3101their ages.
310339 . Petitioner attempted to establish that Ms. Kerstetter
3112behaved differently in h er interview with Petitioner than with
3122these other applicants , that she was less inquisitive and showed
3132less interest in his experience and qualifications, leading to
3141the inference that she ruled out Petitioner as soon as she saw
3153that he was an older candi date .
316140 . Petitioner did not establish this proposition. AT&T
3170hired applicants over the age of 40 to the position for which
3182Petitioner applied, including one who was 60 years old . Out of
319428 individuals hired, ten were in the protected age group
3204(35.71 %) as of the date of their application. Of these ten , four
3217were over 50, and one was 60.
322441 . The CSR position is an entry - level job. AT&T does not
3238expect applicants to spend their careers in this position.
3247Ms. Robinson testified that there are 450 CSRs working at the
3258Ocala call center, with a capacity for 696. The company
3268interviews and hires applicants every day. There is a lot of
3279turnover. Ms. Robinson estimated that the call center loses 25
3289to 40 CSRs every month. Ms. Kerstetter testified that
3298ap plicants are hired in the hope that they will stay with the
3311company for twelve months. All of this is to say that it would
3324be self - defeating for someone in Ms. KerstetterÓs position to
3335dismiss any applicant out of hand for reasons unrelated to the
3346require ments of the position.
335142 . Petitioner failed to offer persuasive evidence that
3360AT&T discriminated against him because of his age in violation
3370of s ection 760.10, Florida Statutes.
3376CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
337943 . The Division of Administrative Hearings has
3387juri sdiction of the subject matter of and the parties to this
3399proceeding. §§ 120.569 and 120.57(1), Fla. Stat.
340644 . The Florida Civil Rights Act of 1992 (the Ð Florida
3418Civil Rights Act Ñ or the Ð Act Ñ ), c hapter 760, prohibits
3432discrimination in the workplace .
343745 . Section 760.10 , states the following , in relevant
3446part :
3448(1) It is an unlawful employment practice
3455for an employer:
3458(a) To discharge or to fail or refuse to
3467hire any individual, or otherwise to
3473discriminate against any individual with
3478respect to compe nsation, terms, conditions,
3484or privileges of employment, because of such
3491individual's race, color, religion, sex,
3496national origin, age, handicap, or marital
3502status.
350346 . AT&T is an Ð employer Ñ as defined in section 760.02(7),
3516which provides the following:
3520(7) Ð Employer Ñ means any person employing
352815 or more employees for each working day in
3537each of 20 or more calendar weeks in the
3546current or preceding calendar year, and any
3553agent of such a person.
35584 7 . Florida courts have determined that federal case law
3569a pplies to claims arising under the Florida's Civil Rights Act,
3580and as such, the United States Supreme Court's model for
3590employment discrimination cases set forth in McDonnell Douglas
3598Corp. v. Green , 411 U.S. 792 (1973), applies to claims arising
3609under s ect ion 760.10, Florida Statutes. See Paraohao v. Bankers
3620Club, Inc. , 225 F. Supp. 2d 1353, 1361 (S.D. Fla. 2002); Fla .
3633State Univ . v. Sondel , 685 So. 2d 923, 925 n.1 (Fla. 1st DCA
36471996); Fla . Dep Ó t of Cmty . Aff . v. Bryant , 586 So. 2d 1205 (Fla.
36651st DCA 1991) .
36694 8 . Direct evidence of discrimination is Ð evidence, that,
3680if believed, proves [the] existence of [a] fact without
3689inference or presumption. Ñ Wilson v. B/E Aerospace, Inc. , 376
3699F.3d 1079, 1086 (11 th Cir. 2004) ( quoting Burrell v. Bd. of
3712Trustees of Ga. M ilitary Coll. , 125 F.3d 1390, 1393 (11 th Cir.
37251997) ) . As stated in Cooper v. Southern Co. , 390 F.3d 695, 724
3739(11 th Cir. 2004) :
3744Direct evidence is evidence which itself
3750proves the existence of discrimination and
3756does not require inference or
3761interpretation , as for example a frank
3767admission from a manager that he refused to
3775hire an applicant because he was black or
3783because she was female. As would be
3790expected, such direct evidence is
3795encountered only infrequently, since direct
3800evidence Ð is composed of only the most
3808blatant remarks, whose intent could be
3814nothing other than to discriminate on the
3821basis of some impermissible factor. Ñ
3827Schoenfeld v. Babbitt , 163 F.3d 1257, 1266
3834(11 th Cir. 1999) (citation and internal
3841quotation marks omitted).
38444 9 . No direct ev idence of discrimination was presented in
3856this case.
385850 . In the absence of direct evidence of a discriminatory
3869animus, the McDonnell analysis is applied to determine claims
3878supported only by circumstantial evidence. Under the McDonnell
3886analysis, in emplo yment discrimination cases, Petitioner has the
3895burden of establishing by a preponderance of evidence a prima
3905facie case of unlawful discrimination. If the prima facie case
3915is established, the burden shifts to the employer to rebut this
3926preliminary showing by producing evidence that the adverse
3934action was taken for some legitimate, non - discriminatory reason.
3944If the employer rebuts the prima facie case, the burden shifts
3955back to Petitioner to show by a preponderance of evidence that
3966the employer 's offered r easons for its adverse employment
3976decision were pretextual. See Texas Dep Ó t of Cmty . Aff . v.
3990Burdine , 450 U.S. 248, 101 S. Ct. 1089, 67 L. Ed. 2d 207 (1981).
400451 . In order to prove a prima facie case of unlawful
4016employment discrimination under c hapter 760 , Petitioner must
4024establish that: (1) he is a memb er of the protected group; (2)
4037he was subject to adverse employment action; (3) AT&T treated
4047similarly situated employees outside of h is protected
4055classifications more favorably ; and (4) Petitioner was qua lified
4064to do the job and/or was performing h is job at a level that met
4079the employerÓs legitimate expectations . See , e.g. , Jiles v.
4088United Parcel Serv . , Inc. , 360 Fed. Appx. 61, 64 (11 th Cir.
41012010); Burke - Fowler v. Orange Cnty . , 447 F.3d 1319, 1323 (11th
4114C ir. 2006); Knight v. Baptist Hosp . of Miami, Inc. , 330 F.3d
41271313, 1316 (11 th Cir. 2003); Williams v. Vitro Serv . Corp . , 144
4141F.3d 1438, 1441 (11th Cir. 1998); McKenzie v. EAP Mgmt . Corp. ,
415340 F. Supp. 2d 1369, 1374 - 75 (S.D. Fla. 1999).
416452 . Petitioner has fai led to prove a prima facie case of
4177unlawful employment discrimination.
418053 . Petitioner established that he is a member of a
4191protected group, in that he was 60 years old at the time he
4204applied for the CSR position with AT&T. Petitioner was subject
4214to an adv erse employment action in that he was not hired for the
4228position . However, Petitioner failed to demonstrate either that
4237similarly situated employees outside of his protected
4244classification were treated more favorably, or that he was
4253qualified for the CSR position.
425854 . Petitioner offered no persuasive evidence to refute
4267Ms. KerstetterÓs conclusion at the close of the interview that
4277Petitioner was ÐNot AcceptableÑ for the CSR position. In the
4287absence of persuasive evidence to the contrary, the undersigned
4296will defer to the expertise of the hiring officer as to her
4308assessment of PetitionerÓs qualifications for the job. See ,
4316e.g. , Watson v. Fort Worth Bank and Trust , 487 U.S. 977, 999
4328( 1988) ( Ð Ò In evaluating claims that discretionary employment
4339practices are insufficiently related to legitimate business
4346purposes, it must be borne in mind that Ó [c]ourts are generally
4358less competent than employers to restructure business practices,
4366and unless mandated to do so by Congress they should not
4377attempt it. Ó Ñ ).
438255 . Th ere was no evidence , outside of PetitionerÓs stated
4393suspicions, that AT&T considered P etitionerÓs age as a negative
4403factor in assessing his qualifications for the CSR position.
4412Ms. Kerstetter evaluated Petitioner on the requirements of the
4421position and h i s responses to her questions during the interview .
4434While the evaluation process was admittedly subjective,
4441Ms. Kerstetter adequately explained her rationale for not
4449finding Petitioner qualified and for her decisions to hire four
4459other applicants.
44615 6 . Hav ing failed to establish t wo elements of the
4474McDonnell analysis , Petitioner has not established a prima facie
4483case of employment discrimination.
44875 7 . Even if Petitioner had met the burden, AT&T presented
4499evidence of legitimate, non - discriminatory reasons f or
4508Petitioner's rejection . Ms. Kerstetter based her decision on
4517PetitionerÓs answers during the interview. She based her
4525decisions to hire Mr. Rodriguez, Ms. Queen, Mr. DeRousse, and
4535Ms. Gill on their answers during their interviews. PetitionerÓs
4544own te stimony established that he passively waited for
4553Ms. Kerstetter to inquire about his experience rather than
4562aggressively putting his qualifications forward during the
4569interview. Such behavior clearly did not bode well for a
4579telephone sales position, and M s. Kerstetter was well within
4589reason to find Petitioner ÐNot AcceptableÑ for the CSR position.
45995 8 . Because AT&T articulated a legitimate,
4607nondiscriminatory reason for not hiring Petitioner , the burden
4615shifts back to Petitioner to produce evidence that AT& T' s s tated
4628reason is a pretext for discrimination, and that his age was the
4640Ð but for Ñ factor in his non - selection. Sims v. MVM, Inc. , 704
4655F.3d 1327, 1334 (11 th Cir. 2013) . A reason cannot be a pretext
4669for discrimination Ð unless it is shown both that the reason was
4681false, and that discrimination was the real reason. Ñ F SU v.
4693S o ndel , 685 So. 2d 923, 927 (Fla. 1st DCA 1996) ( quoting St.
4708Mary's Honor Center v. Hicks , 509 U.S. 502, 515 (1993) ) .
47205 9 . Petitioner failed to produce any evidence tending to
4731prove th at AT&TÓs stated reasons for failing to hire him were
4743pretextual. PetitionerÓs suspicions, without more, are
4749insufficient to establish that Ms. KerstetterÓs testimony
4756regarding the hiring process was false, and that her reason for
4767not hiring Petitioner wa s his age.
4774RECOMMENDATION
4775Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
4785Law, it is
4788RECOMMENDED that the Florida Commission on Human Relations
4796issue a final order finding that AT&T Mobility Services, LLC ,
4806did not commit any unlawful employme nt practices , and dismissing
4816the Petition for Relief filed in th is case .
4826DONE AND ENT ERED this 1 5 th day of May, 2014 , in
4839Tallahassee, Leon County, Florida.
4843S
4844LAWRENCE P. STEVENSON
4847Administrative Law Judge
4850Division of Admi nistrative Hearings
4855The DeSoto Building
48581230 Apalachee Parkway
4861Tallahassee, Florida 32399 - 3060
4866(850) 488 - 9675 SUNCOM 278 - 9675
4874Fax Filing (850) 921 - 6847
4880www.doah.state.fl.us
4881Filed with the Clerk of the
4887Division of Administrative Hearings
4891this 1 5 th day of May, 2014 .
4900ENDNOTES
49011 / The original style of the case named an entity called ÐAT&T
4914Customer Service CenterÑ as the Respondent. At the hearing,
4923Respondent corrected the record to reflect the name of the
4933entity th at would have hired Petitioner had his application been
4944successful.
49452 / Citations shall be to Florida Statutes (20 12 ) unless
4957otherwise specified. Section 760.10, Florida Statutes, has been
4965unchanged since 1992 .
49693 / It should be noted that these disput es occurred while
4981Petitioner was representing himself in this proceeding.
4988PetitionerÓs counsel of record, Mr. Glasser, did not enter a
4998N otice of A ppearance until September 5, 2013, five days before
5010the final hearing.
50134 / The guide also included an option al segment in which the
5026interviewer assesses the applicantÓs ÐMotivational Fit,Ñ but
5034this segment was not used in PetitionerÓs interview.
50425 / For example, question 3 in the category ÐSales
5052Ability/PotentialÑ was, ÐGive me an example of a different or
5062Òout of the boxÓ approach you once used to persuade someone to
5074cooperate with you. How did it turn out?Ñ A ÐCustomer ServiceÑ
5086question was, ÐSometimes when a customer calls us, it is to
5097complain about something. Tell me about a time when you dealt
5108with a cu stomer who was complaining about poor service. How did
5120you handle it?Ñ
5124Petitioner testified that he suspected Ms. Kerstetter was
5132discriminating against him based on age because she did not
5142delve more deeply into his extensive experience with Pacific
5151Be ll. AT&T countered , with good reason, that the Planned
5161Behavioral Questions were broad and provided Petitioner with
5169ample opportunity to discuss any relevant work experience that
5178Ms. Kerstetter did not directly ask him about.
51866 / Ms. Garcia testified that AT&T does not ask for an
5198applicantÓs age until he is given a contingent job offer. At
5209th at point, the applicantÓs age and Social Security number are
5220required in order to run a background check.
52287 / For what it i s worth, Ms. Kerstetter is herself 51 years old.
52438 / Ms. Kerstetter had a much better recollection of the
5254applicants whom she hired than she did of Petitioner.
5263COPIES FURNISHED :
5266Violet Denise Crawford, Agency Clerk
5271Florida Commission on Human Relations
52762009 Apalachee Parkway, Suite 100
5281Ta llahassee, Florida 32301
5285Leticia D. Alfonso, Esquire
5289AT & T Legal Department
5294675 West Peachtree Street
5298Atlanta, Georgia 30308
5301David W. Glasser, Esquire
5305Law Office of David W. Glasser
5311116 Orange Avenue
5314Daytona Beach, Florida 32114
5318Cheyanne Costilla, Gen eral Co unsel
5324Florida Commission on Human Relations
53292009 Apalachee Parkway, Suite 100
5334Tallahassee, Florida 32301
5337NOTICE OF RIGHT TO SUBMIT EXCEPTIONS
5343All parties have the right to submit written exceptions within
535315 days from the date of this Recommende d Order. Any
5364exceptions to this Recommended Order should be filed with the
5374agency that will issue the Final Order in this case.
- Date
- Proceedings
- PDF:
- Date: 07/30/2014
- Proceedings: Agency Final Order Dismissing Petition for Relief from an Unlawful Employment Practice filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 06/02/2014
- Proceedings: Letter to Judge Stevenson from Andrea Heintz regarding electronic filing issues filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 05/15/2014
- Proceedings: Recommended Order (hearing held September 10, 2013). CASE CLOSED.
- PDF:
- Date: 05/15/2014
- Proceedings: Recommended Order cover letter identifying the hearing record referred to the Agency.
- PDF:
- Date: 10/31/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent AT&T Mobility LLC's Proposed Findings of Fact and Memorandum of Law filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 10/14/2013
- Proceedings: Joint Motion for Extension of Time to File Post-hearing Recommended Orders filed.
- Date: 10/07/2013
- Proceedings: Transcript of Proceedings Volumes I-II (not available for viewing) filed.
- Date: 09/10/2013
- Proceedings: CASE STATUS: Hearing Held.
- PDF:
- Date: 07/30/2013
- Proceedings: Notice of Hearing (hearing set for September 10, 2013; 9:00 a.m.; Daytona Beach, FL).
- PDF:
- Date: 07/10/2013
- Proceedings: Order Granting Continuance (parties to advise status by July 30, 2013).
- PDF:
- Date: 07/10/2013
- Proceedings: Petitioner's Amended Motion for Continuance (corrected copy) filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 06/12/2013
- Proceedings: Petitioner's Response to Respondent's Objection to Petitioner's Motion for a Continuance filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 06/11/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent's Response to Petitioner's Motion for Continuance filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 04/22/2013
- Proceedings: Petitioner's Response to Respondent's Objection to Request for Production No. 7 filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 04/03/2013
- Proceedings: Order Re-scheduling Hearing (hearing set for July 18, 2013; 9:00 a.m.; Daytona Beach, FL).
- PDF:
- Date: 04/01/2013
- Proceedings: Petitioner's Arguments Against Respondent's Motion to Reconsider filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 03/25/2013
- Proceedings: Order Granting Continuance (parties to advise status by April 4, 2013).
- PDF:
- Date: 03/20/2013
- Proceedings: Joint Stipulation Regarding Respondent's Motion for Protective Order and Petitioner's Motion to Compel filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 03/05/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent's Notice of Filing Declaration of Tina Garcia in Support of Motion for Protective Order and Response in Opposition to Petitioner's Motion to Compel filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 03/05/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent's Motion for Protective Order and Response in Opposition to Petitioner's Motion to Compel filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 02/25/2013
- Proceedings: Petitioner's Response to Respondent's Response to Petitioner's Request for Production of Documents filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 02/22/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent's Certificate of Service for Response to Petitioner's Requests for Production filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 01/28/2013
- Proceedings: Order Granting Continuance and Re-scheduling Hearing by Video Teleconference (hearing set for April 12, 2013; 9:00 a.m.; Daytona Beach, FL).
- PDF:
- Date: 01/25/2013
- Proceedings: Respondent's Motion for Continuance and Response to Initial Order filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 01/16/2013
- Proceedings: Notice of Hearing by Video Teleconference (hearing set for March 18, 2013; 9:00 a.m.; Daytona Beach and Tallahassee, FL).
- PDF:
- Date: 01/14/2013
- Proceedings: (Petitioner's Response to Initial Order) Schedule Hearing with Administrative Law Judge (correct e-mail for Respondent) filed.
- PDF:
- Date: 01/14/2013
- Proceedings: (Petitioner's Response to Initial Order) Schedule Hearing with Administrative Law Judge (incorrect e-mail for Respondent) filed.
Case Information
- Judge:
- LAWRENCE P. STEVENSON
- Date Filed:
- 01/07/2013
- Date Assignment:
- 01/08/2013
- Last Docket Entry:
- 08/14/2014
- Location:
- Daytona Beach, Florida
- District:
- Northern
- Agency:
- ADOPTED IN TOTO
Counsels
-
Leticia D. Alfonso, Esquire
Address of Record -
Violet Denise Crawford, Agency Clerk
Address of Record -
David W Glasser, Esquire
Address of Record -
David W. Glasser, Esquire
Address of Record